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		By: Jack		</title>
		<link>https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3478</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Lara,

While I really appreciate the point of this post, I do want to suggest to you and others that Jesus is clearly portrayed as gossiping negatively in Matthew&#039;s gospel. After publicly shaming the Pharisees into silence (Mt 22:46), Jesus &quot;pours salt into the wound&quot; (so to speak) by turning away from them, to the crowd to gossip with them about the Pharisees, and with the Pharisees standing right there (Mt 23:1-7)! Scholars who study gossip in the New Testament recognize this example of gossiping as particularly aggressive since it is intended to be overheard (and immediately!) by the subject(s). Jesus turns away from the Pharisees toward the crowd (thus, rendering the Pharisees &quot;absent&quot; to the discussion), then invites the crowd to construct the Pharisees negatively with him - &quot;they don&#039;t practice what they preach!&quot; and &quot;They do (good) works only to be seen doing them.&quot; The situation as it is described fits the definition of gossip to a &quot;T.&quot;

Gossip in Jesus&#039; time and place was perceived as something &quot;not good,&quot; but it was put into practice by everybody, all the time. In fact, such talk was an essential social process involved in the construction and maintenance of manners, customs, mores, and group &#038; individual identity. 

Paul the Apostle gossips very negatively about Peter to the Galatians (read Gal 2:11-14). This is an example of &quot;epistolary gossip&quot; (gossiping in a letter) as Paul invites the Galatians to construct Peter as a &quot;coward&quot; and a &quot;hypocrite.&quot;

This doesn&#039;t mean Jesus and Paul were bad guys; By no means! But it does situate them believably in their social-cultural context.

I&#039;m not suggesting that gossiping badly about people is &quot;OK&quot; or something like that. [It IS possible to gossip positively too - we should all practice that kind of speech.] Gossip can tear down and apart and injure and destroy - for sure. But I couldn&#039;t resist responding given the title of your post &quot;Jesus Didn&#039;t Gossip&quot; since, in fact, according to Matthew, he did!

Blessings to you and your ministry with this blog.

Jack

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lara,</p>
<p>While I really appreciate the point of this post, I do want to suggest to you and others that Jesus is clearly portrayed as gossiping negatively in Matthew&#8217;s gospel. After publicly shaming the Pharisees into silence (Mt 22:46), Jesus &#8220;pours salt into the wound&#8221; (so to speak) by turning away from them, to the crowd to gossip with them about the Pharisees, and with the Pharisees standing right there (Mt 23:1-7)! Scholars who study gossip in the New Testament recognize this example of gossiping as particularly aggressive since it is intended to be overheard (and immediately!) by the subject(s). Jesus turns away from the Pharisees toward the crowd (thus, rendering the Pharisees &#8220;absent&#8221; to the discussion), then invites the crowd to construct the Pharisees negatively with him &#8211; &#8220;they don&#8217;t practice what they preach!&#8221; and &#8220;They do (good) works only to be seen doing them.&#8221; The situation as it is described fits the definition of gossip to a &#8220;T.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gossip in Jesus&#8217; time and place was perceived as something &#8220;not good,&#8221; but it was put into practice by everybody, all the time. In fact, such talk was an essential social process involved in the construction and maintenance of manners, customs, mores, and group &amp; individual identity. </p>
<p>Paul the Apostle gossips very negatively about Peter to the Galatians (read Gal 2:11-14). This is an example of &#8220;epistolary gossip&#8221; (gossiping in a letter) as Paul invites the Galatians to construct Peter as a &#8220;coward&#8221; and a &#8220;hypocrite.&#8221;</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean Jesus and Paul were bad guys; By no means! But it does situate them believably in their social-cultural context.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that gossiping badly about people is &#8220;OK&#8221; or something like that. [It IS possible to gossip positively too &#8211; we should all practice that kind of speech.] Gossip can tear down and apart and injure and destroy &#8211; for sure. But I couldn&#8217;t resist responding given the title of your post &#8220;Jesus Didn&#8217;t Gossip&#8221; since, in fact, according to Matthew, he did!</p>
<p>Blessings to you and your ministry with this blog.</p>
<p>Jack</p>
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		By: Sarah		</title>
		<link>https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3310</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh this is so convicting Lara. I have been struggling with this, and I&#039;m afraid I&#039;ve been turning a blind eye to it. I know my heart is convicted about it, but when it comes to other people &#038; sisters in Christ I&#039;m lost on how to handle it. What do  you do or say when your friend wants to gossip, but you feel like you don&#039;t want to partake in that sort of slander? How can we turn the conversation around without sounding preachy or condemning? Im just lost on how to handle it and usually end up saying nothing at all. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh this is so convicting Lara. I have been struggling with this, and I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;ve been turning a blind eye to it. I know my heart is convicted about it, but when it comes to other people &amp; sisters in Christ I&#8217;m lost on how to handle it. What do  you do or say when your friend wants to gossip, but you feel like you don&#8217;t want to partake in that sort of slander? How can we turn the conversation around without sounding preachy or condemning? Im just lost on how to handle it and usually end up saying nothing at all. </p>
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		By: Markeitha Christian		</title>
		<link>https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3309</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had a friend who I felt obligated to friend. She was older, and it really seemed as though God put me in her life for a reason. But she was/is a horrible gossiper! I was torn for so long because I couldn&#039;t stop her from doing it. In the beginning I would listen and then tell her well we will pray for &quot;so and so&quot; lets not talk about it. But that never worked!! I found myself gossiping with her unintentionally! I had to seriously get all holy on her. As soon as she mentioned someone&#039;s name I said &quot;stop right there! Lets pray!&quot; She eventually stopped calling me :-) ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a friend who I felt obligated to friend. She was older, and it really seemed as though God put me in her life for a reason. But she was/is a horrible gossiper! I was torn for so long because I couldn&#8217;t stop her from doing it. In the beginning I would listen and then tell her well we will pray for &#8220;so and so&#8221; lets not talk about it. But that never worked!! I found myself gossiping with her unintentionally! I had to seriously get all holy on her. As soon as she mentioned someone&#8217;s name I said &#8220;stop right there! Lets pray!&#8221; She eventually stopped calling me 🙂 </p>
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		By: Lara Gibson Williams		</title>
		<link>https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3308</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 12:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3304&quot;&gt;Laura Branch&lt;/a&gt;.

Ha. Gossip about a gossiper. Yeah, actually God convicted me of something I personally said recently about someone. He&#039;s patient and faithful to lead us. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3304">Laura Branch</a>.</p>
<p>Ha. Gossip about a gossiper. Yeah, actually God convicted me of something I personally said recently about someone. He&#8217;s patient and faithful to lead us. </p>
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		By: Lara Gibson Williams		</title>
		<link>https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3307</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 12:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3306&quot;&gt;Sarah&lt;/a&gt;.

Ugh. I don&#039;t &quot;like&quot;  writing such convicting things -- convicting to me! But it was heavy in my spirit after something I said recently to someone about someone else. (Tongue twister.) God convicted. He does that, for our good and His glory. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3306">Sarah</a>.</p>
<p>Ugh. I don&#8217;t &#8220;like&#8221;  writing such convicting things &#8212; convicting to me! But it was heavy in my spirit after something I said recently to someone about someone else. (Tongue twister.) God convicted. He does that, for our good and His glory. </p>
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		By: Sarah		</title>
		<link>https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3306</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 12:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I worry about falling into this all the time - especially at work. Sometimes it&#039;s hard to separate discussing someone&#039;s work outcomes and gossip. Thankfully, I&#039;m no longer in a manager role, which helps!


Thanks for convicting reminder!.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worry about falling into this all the time &#8211; especially at work. Sometimes it&#8217;s hard to separate discussing someone&#8217;s work outcomes and gossip. Thankfully, I&#8217;m no longer in a manager role, which helps!</p>
<p>Thanks for convicting reminder!.</p>
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		By: Sarah		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 12:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3301&quot;&gt;Heather MacFadyen&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, Heather. That is drastic, but I can see how that would helpful. Thanks for sharing - I think it&#039;s an approach I&#039;ll take!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3301">Heather MacFadyen</a>.</p>
<p>Wow, Heather. That is drastic, but I can see how that would helpful. Thanks for sharing &#8211; I think it&#8217;s an approach I&#8217;ll take!</p>
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		By: Laura Branch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 11:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We all know &quot;who&quot; that gossip is...the one who always knows the scoop on every &quot;prayer need&quot;....but I won&#039;t say the name. We all have to be aware of our own tendencies!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know &#8220;who&#8221; that gossip is&#8230;the one who always knows the scoop on every &#8220;prayer need&#8221;&#8230;.but I won&#8217;t say the name. We all have to be aware of our own tendencies!</p>
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		By: Lara Gibson Williams		</title>
		<link>https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3303</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 11:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3301&quot;&gt;Heather MacFadyen&lt;/a&gt;.

Love it, Heather! That&#039;s a great phrase to keep in our minds. &quot;Say it to her face.&quot; ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3301">Heather MacFadyen</a>.</p>
<p>Love it, Heather! That&#8217;s a great phrase to keep in our minds. &#8220;Say it to her face.&#8221; </p>
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		By: Heather MacFadyen		</title>
		<link>https://tooverflowing.com/jesus-didnt-gossip/#comment-3301</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 11:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[preach sister. I was so convicted of this in my own life I decided to take a drastic approach...only talk about someone if I was talking to that someone. I found any time I talked about someone (positive or negative) when they weren&#039;t around it got me in trouble. So I made a point to just only &quot;say it to her face&quot;. When I was with friends it forced me to talk more about myself or ask more questions of the friend I was with, having her open up more. I still fail...often. But I agree if we truly want to be &quot;Jesus followers&quot;...here is an area which needs a little work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>preach sister. I was so convicted of this in my own life I decided to take a drastic approach&#8230;only talk about someone if I was talking to that someone. I found any time I talked about someone (positive or negative) when they weren&#8217;t around it got me in trouble. So I made a point to just only &#8220;say it to her face&#8221;. When I was with friends it forced me to talk more about myself or ask more questions of the friend I was with, having her open up more. I still fail&#8230;often. But I agree if we truly want to be &#8220;Jesus followers&#8221;&#8230;here is an area which needs a little work.</p>
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